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CHAPTER 10:
DID TIME TRAVELLERS SINK THE TITANIC?

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NOTES

Time travel features in this chapter, and rather than visiting the ship itself, why not head to some of the interesting alternative places back in time, associated with the ship. For example:

 

Location: Dunkettle, Cork

Time: Summer of 1913

Look for: a man walking his dog along Glamire river

 

The man walking his dog is about to pick up a bottle he has spotted on the banks of the river. An actual message in a bottle. The message reads, "From Titanic. Good Bye all. Burke of Glanmire, Cork." The note has been written by Jeremiah Burke, a 19-year-old farmhand who was travelling to America to visit his sisters. As he was boarding the ship, Jeremiah was handed a bottle containing holy water, by his mother. According to this theory, as the ship was going down, Jeremiah wrote his note, put it in the bottle his mother gave him, and tied it with a bootlace and threw it overboard. A year later, that note will travel halfway across the North Atanlantic to the coast of Ireland, where it will find its way to Dunkettle, just a few miles from where Jeramiah’s family home. The letter would be returned to the family, who confirm it was his writing and verify this extraordinary coincidence. 

 

Location: New York

Time: 14th May 1912

Look for: the premiere of a movie considered to be one of the great lost movies of the silent era

 

Just 29 days after the ship went down, the very first movie was made about the Titanic, starring one of the survivors of the ship, who wore the very same clothes and shoes she was wearing the night of the disaster ‘Saved From the Titanic’ was released May 14, 1912. Dorothy Gibson was already a movie star, in fact her latest film was being released as the Titanic was out at sea ‘The Lucky Hold Up’. Upon her return to New York, Dorothy immediately got to work on the movie, which ended up combining original footage of Dorothy, but also stock footage of Captain Edward Smith, the Titanic’s captain, taken of him from the RMS Olympic, and also a lot of stock footage of icebergs. The movie however was lost in a studio fire and no print has survived. Along with Mary Pickford, Dorothy was the highest paid actress in the world at this point. 

 

The Original movie poster for the movie made just 29 days after the Titanic sank, starring one of its survivors.

 

But following an incident in which Dorothy crashed her car into a pedestrian, sadly killing them, she quit the movie industry, making only one more movie after the Titanic flick, and becoming a choral singer and relocating to Europe. After a stint of being a nazi sympathiser (which she thoroughly regreted) she was arrested for anti-facist aggitation and was jailed in Milan. However, along with two others, she escaped prison and relocated to France, where she would eventually die of a heartattack at the Ritz Paris. (In my bed, I wonder?)

 

This is the only movie that features a genuine Titanic survivor. It almost wasn’t though. In 1958, another Titanic movie ‘A Night To Remember’ was filming a sinking scene, when a visitor to the set, Lawrence Beesley, a Titanic survivor, tried to slip into the scene, so that he could deal with some of his survival guilt and at least symbolically go down with the ship. Unfortunately, the director Roy Ward Baker, spotted Beesley and had to have him removed, because it was against actors union rules.

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CLARIFICATIONS

Something went horribly wrong in this chapter, and we’re not quite sure how it happened. As mentioned in the intro, the batshit nature of this book meant that things went weird in the final bit of this book’s editing, and bit that should have been cut didn’t get cut, thing that shouldn’t have made it in - made it in. Hopefully the mistakes don’t mess with your enjoyment of this chapter. 

 

I say the hull exterior of the Titanic building is 127 feet same height as the Titanic. I knew this at the time, but the change was not made. And it’s capacity can fit over the the Titanic’s capacity. 

The first British performance o the Titanic musical was 2018 not 2015. 

The biggest ciock upo in this chapter is that I say Jack Grimm’s expedition was the third when in fact it was the second. Any time you read third - replace it with second. Also, Orson Welles did narrate a documentary about the expedition, but it was the first, not the second filmed expedition. 

This is the biggest regret with Grimm. I say “if only to show where not to look”. I meant that, in my conversational language, to mean that he dshowed a lot, and even if the one thing he showed was where not to look that would have been enough, but he did show other things. Ballard did look at a few places that Grimm had identified. In fact, one exciting incident involed looking at a spot mentioned in Grimm’s book. Which is a grreat book, co-authored by ____, which Grimm mentions a particularly interesting spot. But Grimm had set up the spot for Ballard to look despite it not being a real spot. It was a joke put in the book in the hope that any future Titanic hunters would fall for it and hunt there. He managed to trick Ballard. 

Ballard said that the money allocated to looking for a shiopp was 1,500 times less than space travel’s annual budget.

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SOURCES

NEW: Disko Bay is in GREENLAND, “The unusual tides caused glaciers to calve icebergs off Greenland. Those southbound icebergs got stuck near Labrador and Newfoundland but then slowly moved south again,”

 

soap, tallow (rendered beef or mutton fat) and train-oil (sperm whale oil)

https://titanicfacts.net/titanic-launch/

Pigeon Forge Half Scale

https://www.hearthsidecabinrentals.com/blog/pigeon-forge/pigeon-forge-attractions/fun-facts-about-titanic-museum-in-pigeon-forge-tn/

given a ticket of a real passenger

https://titanicpigeonforge.com/about-titanic/

ice wall collapsed - ice wall size https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/titanic-museum-ice-wall-collapse-injures-three-tennessee-n1275880

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/04/three-injured-as-iceberg-wall-collapses-at-us-titanic-museum

Pittsburgh - Titanic Flooded

https://www.post-gazette.com/local/breaking/2008/06/24/Line-break-sinks-Titanic-exhibit-at-SportsWorks-building/stories/200806240171

the first British performance of Titanic: The Musical was stopped for health and safety reasons 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/titanic-musical-halted-on-opening-night-as-stage-is-hit-by-falling-debris-6dwllght3

Pipe burst - in Dutch language

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2019/08/26/toeschouwers-kletsnat-tijdens-musical-titanic/

Benches are morse code - museum capacity

https://www.titanicbelfast.com/news/30-things-to-discover-about-titanic-and-titanic-belfast/

Titanic measurements - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Titanic

 

Grimm mother quote - https://archive.org/details/texasbigrichexpl00shee/page/280/mode/2up?q=Grimm+sinners

Grimm - Monkey - Ultimatum - https://archive.org/details/texasbigrichexpl00shee/page/282/mode/2up

Grimm - Nessie Bigfoot Sasquatch Noahs Ark - https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/jack-grimm-explorer-titanic-bigfoot

Grimm - Jack Drury - https://www.csmonitor.com/1981/0724/072423.html

Bill Ryan - Atlantis - https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1320-sea-level-study-reveals-atlantis-candidate/
Grimm - https://eu.oklahoman.com/story/news/1985/09/04/oklahoma-native-says-he-spotted-liner-first/62753114007/

 

RAISE THE TITANIC

Dynamite! - https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/astor-to-dynamite-titanic.html

Raise The Titanic suggestions - Ping Pong balls, Magnets, Freezing, etc. https://www.titanicuniverse.com/interesting-ways-to-raise-the-titanic-part-one/3934

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1985-09-09-0330000071-story.html

https://archive.org/details/titanic0000macd/page/72/mode/2up

https://robbreport.com/motors/marine/titanic-110-years-after-sinking-1234674340/

Douglas Woolley - https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4765970.douglas-woolley-claims-he-owns-the-wreck-of-the-rms-titanic/

Vaseline - Vaseline can raise the Titanic - UPI Archives

Ping Pong Balls Patent - https://www.iusmentis.com/patents/priorart/donaldduck/

Charles Smith & Magnets - https://juxtintime.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/a-plan-to-raise-the-titanic/
 

 

Time Travellers

Neil deGrasse Tyson Startalk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn8rqLrPmBI

How Heavy is a TARDIS - http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/18-3.htm
Volume of a Human - https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/the-human-cube-the-volume-of-humanity#:~:text=The%20average%20human%20has%20a,7.6%20billion%3A%20470%20trillion%20cc.

 

Supermoon - 

Moon on 4th Jan 1912 - https://nineplanets.org/moon/phase/1-4-1912/

http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/moon/fullperigee1901.html

 

Donald Olson & Theory

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/120306-titanic-supermoon-moon-science-iceberg-sky-sink

https://www.livescience.com/18862-supermoon-titanic-disaster.html

 

Iceberg in Disko Bay

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/03/271148468/iceberg-blamed-for-sinking-titanic-pushing-more-ice-into-ocean

 

Moon on 14/15th April 1912

https://nineplanets.org/moon/phase/4-14-1912/

https://nineplanets.org/moon/phase/4-15-1912/

 

Sea hedges -

 

Warm Air - Cold Air - Haze - https://www.titanicinquiry.org/BOTInq/BOTInq28Arguments02.php

 

Refraction on April 14th/15th - https://timmaltin.com/2015/04/08/abnormal-refraction-titanic/

 

Superior Mirage - Fata Morgana

https://skybrary.aero/articles/fata-morgana

 

Hafgerdingar - 

https://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~lehn/_Papers_for_Download/PolarRecord-hafg.pdf

 

Aurora - 

 

Solar Storm -

https://phys.org/news/2020-09-aurora-borealis-role-titanic.html

 

Aurora Borealis affects radio - compass -
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/apr/11/weatherwatch-aurora-borealis-radio-radar-interference#:~:text=Radio%20emissions%20from%20auroras%20interfere,sending%20signals%20across%20vast%20distances.

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/2978/would-my-compass-still-work

 

Carrington effect modern day cost - 

https://www.space.com/the-carrington-event#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20Lloyd%27s%20of%20London,alone%2C%20according%20to%20NASA%20spaceflight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event#Similar_events

 

Fire -
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041108020906.htm

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coal-fire-may-have-helped-sink-titanic-180961699/

 

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PHOTOS

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